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Trinidad James Says 'People Who Die From Drugs Are Just Weak-Minded'
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Originally posted by Krow View Postwell put.... but in order to beat it you gotta want it also. Thats where the strong part of the mind yo0u gotta be. you want to end up dead, prison, psych ward. I'm going extreme but thats seriously what happens to those tht have the 'disease" I know I do.....
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Originally posted by Krow View PostIt is a disease.... how can one person stop using drugs so simple but one guy cannot. I'll try to find information about it. But yes it is a disease. Its just the governement will not place it in that category because it would be too costly for them.....
Just search on the net you'll see.
Most medical doctors, rehabs, detox, AA's CA's NA"s all describe it as a disease....
I did want to act like an ass when I quoted you but I know my stuff my girfriend also works in addiction and has a bachelor in university in which they also describe it as a disease
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Originally posted by cant View Postdepending on who you are, you may either become addicted or not.
thats exactly the disease part. Nicotine is not a disease because it is not a mind altering drug/alcohol. When you drink or get high it alters your behaviour.
The medical comunity is recently saying its a disease before it was not considered one.
After yrs and yrs of doing drugs your destroy your serotonin and your dopamine (pleasure) in your brain. Medical researchers also found a "tock or tick" in brains of alcoholics after they died. When compared to regular people or drinkiers who can drink normally that (tick or tock) is not there.
I'll call the last rehab place i did to get the exact term and post it tomorrow.GO HABS GO!!!!
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Originally posted by Krow View Postthats exactly the disease part. Nicotine is not a disease because it is not a mind altering drug/alcohol. When you drink or get high it alters your behaviour.
The medical comunity is recently saying its a disease before it was not considered one.
After yrs and yrs of doing drugs your destroy your serotonin and your dopamine (pleasure) in your brain. Medical researchers also found a "tock or tick" in brains of alcoholics after they died. When compared to regular people or drinkiers who can drink normally that (tick or tock) is not there.
I'll call the last rehab place i did to get the exact term and post it tomorrow.
Over drinking causes cirrhosis of the liver, now that is a disease. Just as cigarettes can cause cancer, another disease.
So now matter how you slice this pie, over indulgence of these = addiction.
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Originally posted by cant View PostYou can call it a disease as the "medical community" does but it still indicates as having an addiction.
Over drinking causes cirrhosis of the liver, now that is a disease. Just as cigarettes can cause cancer, another disease.
So now matter how you slice this pie, over indulgence of these = addiction.
I respect your view but you are wrong IMO
Would you care to share your drug background and where you get your info or is this just something you believe?
disease does not equal an addiction.
over indulgence of these = addiction. I have a buddy of mine thatdoes coke here and there he can do like 1000$ one month and then for 4-5 montyhs not do anyhthing and then do it again all over... is that addiction. An addiction is soemthing you need everyday.......
anyways. I'll get that info for you and you can make an opinion on it after.GO HABS GO!!!!
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Originally posted by Krow View PostTyhats your opinion, then how come one person can do cocaine one time and get addicted and the next guy will do it one time and not get addicted. Its something in the brain that gets you addicted kinda liek something in your dna that will likely make you have cancer that specific cancer over another
I respect your view but you are wrong IMO
Would you care to share your drug background and where you get your info or is this just something you believe?
disease does not equal an addiction.
over indulgence of these = addiction. I have a buddy of mine thatdoes coke here and there he can do like 1000$ one month and then for 4-5 montyhs not do anyhthing and then do it again all over... is that addiction. An addiction is soemthing you need everyday.......
anyways. I'll get that info for you and you can make an opinion on it after.
How can someone liking the high drugs and alcohol offers, be a disease, that doesn't make sense.
You do know that your first hit is never than same as the rest. Why do you think people drink so much, in order to get that full high.
Only problem is your body is used to it, so it takes more to get that high.
Plus, your body is craving it now. So how can this be classified as a disease???????
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When drugs become psychologically addictive , thats when its real bad I believe .. Physical addiction can still b treated one way or another.. But when ur mind cant live without it.. Ur basically fucked.. I agree with whoever this guy is for the most part..
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Originally posted by cant View PostSounds to me like you friend has a some what solid constitution if he's able to do that from time to time. As I mentioned before, it's about your will-power.
How can someone liking the high drugs and alcohol offers, be a disease, that doesn't make sense.
You do know that your first hit is never than same as the rest. Why do you think people drink so much, in order to get that full high.
Only problem is your body is used to it, so it takes more to get that high.
Plus, your body is craving it now. So how can this be classified as a disease???????
I dont think this rule applies to Drinking and smoking cigs. I do smoke cigs, but its not because i'm chasing that first puff i ever took.
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Originally posted by HazeSilver View Postthats stupid imo, drinking to get the first high. I mean u drink to get drunk or w.e, drinking ends up always the same, it's not like some psychedelic drug or crack or MDMA.
I dont think this rule applies to Drinking and smoking cigs. I do smoke cigs, but its not because i'm chasing that first puff i ever took.
I can drink two beers and get a nice buzz off of them or I can drink a Long Island Iced Tea and be good for the night.
You know why...because I don't drink that often to the point where my body has become used to it.
So I can get a nice buzz or high with a small amount of alcohol, not having to over do it.
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Originally posted by cant View PostYou drink to get a nice buzz, which is basically a type of high. Some folks sometimes use it as 'liquid courage', but most like the feeling alcohol gives them.
I can drink two beers and get a nice buzz off of them or I can drink a Long Island Iced Tea and be good for the night.
You know why...because I don't drink that often to the point where my body has become used to it.
So I can get a nice buzz or high with a small amount of alcohol, not having to over do it.
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