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  • The Secret Garden/Never Had A Friend Like Me

    I was talking to a few folks on YouTube earlier today about reading here on the forum that "Never Had A Friend Like Me" sampled "The Secret Garden" by Quincy Jones. To help remove their doubts I did this quick lil demonstration to show how it is true. I figured I'd post it here too since I got the info from this website


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    https://mega.nz/file/OtQjnCDQ#EwGL72...haZzn8KYauVcHs My unfinished instrumental remake.

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    • #3
      Yea, it's been known for quite a while

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Dominator View Post
        Yea, it's been known for quite a while

        http://www.2pac-forum.com/showthread...friend+like+me
        Quite a few friends of mine on YouTube were like "I don't hear it, or see it". I didn't believe it either when I first read it here until I started playing around with the Quincy track lol

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Kuba View Post
          Damn, your mix is really good man. Do you have plans to finish it. I could understand if u didn't cuz those bass and lead guitar riffs for that song do soooo much, it would be damn near impossible to recreate them note for note exactly how they play. That's why I only did the little bit that I did lol

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          • #6
            Originally posted by kool81 View Post
            Damn, your mix is really good man. Do you have plans to finish it. I could understand if u didn't cuz those bass and lead guitar riffs for that song do soooo much, it would be damn near impossible to recreate them note for note exactly how they play. That's why I only did the little bit that I did lol
            My old one from like '15 when i just started playing. I remember ripping my fingers up trying to bend the strings lol
            "Before I fear computer chips I gotta deal with brothers flippin', I don't see no devils bleedin' only black blood drippin'."

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            • #7
              Originally posted by enya View Post
              My old one from like '15 when i just started playing. I remember ripping my fingers up trying to bend the strings lol
              https://www74.zippyshare.com/v/bopHtc1T/file.html
              Honestly, I was thinking if somebody was gon be able to pull it off, it would be you [MENTION=1511]enya. Did u ever do an update for it?

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              • #8
                Originally posted by kool81 View Post
                Honestly, I was thinking if somebody was gon be able to pull it off, it would be you [MENTION=1511]enya. Did u ever do an update for it?
                No i just left it like that. I'm not sure if i will ever revisit it. The bassline is constantly changing so i wouldn't be able to loop a good 16.
                I would have to replay it like bar for bar to get all the changes right.. too time consuming for me right now
                "Before I fear computer chips I gotta deal with brothers flippin', I don't see no devils bleedin' only black blood drippin'."

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by enya View Post
                  No i just left it like that. I'm not sure if i will ever revisit it. The bassline is constantly changing so i wouldn't be able to loop a good 16.
                  I would have to replay it like bar for bar to get all the changes right.. too time consuming for me right now
                  I hear ya man. People have asked me to remake the OG to Until The End Of Time too. I look at that and Never Had A Friend Like Me as 2 beats that would too time consuming to get it right note for note. Even Never Call U Bitch Again has that lead guitar doing sooooooo much that it would almost require the original guitarist(s) to replay all of those to truly be able to get it near perfect lol

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by kool81 View Post
                    I hear ya man. People have asked me to remake the OG to Until The End Of Time too. I look at that and Never Had A Friend Like Me as 2 beats that would too time consuming to get it right note for note. Even Never Call U Bitch Again has that lead guitar doing sooooooo much that it would almost require the original guitarist(s) to replay all of those to truly be able to get it near perfect lol
                    Yeah a lot of the bass and guitar tracks Ricky Rouse played are very spontaneous and i just love it. Annoying to remake tho

                    I have all the bass notes mapped out in the piano roll for NHaFLM & Made Niggaz tho. Took me hours to transcribe that shit. I'll finish up Made Niggaz someday

                    I tried to replay the guitar track of This Ain't Livin' OG/Road 2 Glory but quit after the first few notes. Fuck that shit lol..
                    "Before I fear computer chips I gotta deal with brothers flippin', I don't see no devils bleedin' only black blood drippin'."

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by enya View Post
                      Yeah a lot of the bass and guitar tracks Ricky Rouse played are very spontaneous and i just love it. Annoying to remake tho

                      I have all the bass notes mapped out in the piano roll for NHaFLM & Made Niggaz tho. Took me hours to transcribe that shit. I'll finish up Made Niggaz someday

                      I tried to replay the guitar track of This Ain't Livin' OG/Road 2 Glory but quit after the first few notes. Fuck that shit lol..
                      https://www16.zippyshare.com/v/bpxa31zi/file.html
                      Man I busted out laughing at what u said about trying This Ain't Living cause I can toooooootally relate lol. The situation be like... Me: "Hmm I think I can remake this"... Pull up and align the sample along with some Johnny J drums. Then pull up a bass guitar and a lead guitar (in your case, actually playing the real instrument. In my case, trying to do that shit with a fucking keyboard lmao) and get about 2 to 4 bars of the riffs done and you start looking how much time has passed and compare it to the fact that "Ok.... I got the 1st few seconds of the song done" then play the actual 2Pac/Johnny J beat and realize that the remake ain't matching..... Me: "Ooook, file, save, clooooose Pro Tools session" Lmao

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by enya View Post
                        Yeah a lot of the bass and guitar tracks Ricky Rouse played are very spontaneous and i just love it. Annoying to remake tho

                        I have all the bass notes mapped out in the piano roll for NHaFLM & Made Niggaz tho. Took me hours to transcribe that shit. I'll finish up Made Niggaz someday

                        I tried to replay the guitar track of This Ain't Livin' OG/Road 2 Glory but quit after the first few notes. Fuck that shit lol..
                        https://www16.zippyshare.com/v/bpxa31zi/file.html
                        Jesus fucking christ! This kind of teasing is even worse than sharing clips of unreleased 2Pac songs. It reminds me of that scene in Good Will Hunting where he destroys those impossible to solve math problems and wasting his potential

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by enya View Post
                          No i just left it like that. I'm not sure if i will ever revisit it. The bassline is constantly changing so i wouldn't be able to loop a good 16.
                          I would have to replay it like bar for bar to get all the changes right.. too time consuming for me right now
                          Please. You must revisit. For us bro, for us!!!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Dominator View Post
                            Jesus fucking christ! This kind of teasing is even worse than sharing clips of unreleased 2Pac songs. It reminds me of that scene in Good Will Hunting where he destroys those impossible to solve math problems and wasting his potential

                            Here is some more teasing
                            "Before I fear computer chips I gotta deal with brothers flippin', I don't see no devils bleedin' only black blood drippin'."

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                            • #15
                              Well I think it's more of a matter of the task being a bit too complicated for us, whereas people may think we are very capable of taking on such a task of reproducing some of these tracks. I'm sure if Johnny J and whoever played bass and lead guitar on those songs lost the sessions, they probably wouldn't be in a hurry to recreate them lol
                              Last edited by kool81; 05-09-2020, 12:32 AM.

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